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Murder Of Jo Cox, MP Looking Increasingly Like It Was Politically Motivated

Jo Cox

While police and law enforcement are not commenting on any motive, it is increasingly becoming apparent that the attack that ended in the murder of Labour Party Member of Parliament Jo Cox was motivated at least in part by politics and by the ongoing debate over next week’s referendum that could decide whether Great Britain will remain in the Euoropean Union. As the reader will recall, Thomas Mair, the suspect now in custody was reported by what now appears to be multiple witnesses to have shouted “Britain First!” or some variation there on both during  the attack and while he was being taken into custody. As I noted at the time, Britain First is the name of a far-right nationalist party in En and law enforcement refuse to comment, evidence is mounting that there was indeed a political motive behind the murder on Thursday of British Member of Parliament Jo Cox. As you’ll recall, at the time the news was first reported news outlets in the United Kingdom reported that he had shouted “Britain First!” gland that eschews internationalism, supports the”Leave” position in the upcoming European Union resolution, and espouses a virulent form of white nationalism that clearly is rooted in racism. While the group has denied that Thomas Mair, the suspect in Cox’s murder who was taken into custody immediately after the attack, was or had ever been a member of the group, it was one piece of evidence that Mair may have attacked Cox because of her position on the referendum.

Since the attack, other pieces of evidence regarding Mair’s political beliefs have emerged that suggest he was sympathetic to a far-right, nationalist, world view that has been gaining increasing strength in Britain and elsewhere in Europe in recent years. For example, it was reported that Mair had engaged in correspondence and ordered literature from groups here in the United States with a similar world view, including  a manual on how to make a crude yet effective gun at home, something that would be relevant in a nation where legally obtaining a weapon is far more difficult than it is in the United States. It’s also been reported that Mair had a long history of Nazi ties and mental illness. Finally. at his first court appearance today, Mair seemingly confirmed his political leanings and the message he intended to send:

Thomas Mair has given his name as “death to traitors, freedom for Britain” during his appearance in court charged with the murder of Labour MP Jo Cox.

Mair, 52, from Birstall, was formally charged at Westminster magistrates court on Saturday with the murder of Joanne Cox, grievous bodily harm, possession of a firearm with intent to commit an indictable offence and possession of an offensive weapon.

Asked to confirm his name, Mair said: “My name is death to traitors, freedom for Britain.” The judge then asked the defendant’s lawyers to confirm that his name was Thomas Mair, which they did.

Mair was not required to enter a plea and his lawyer Keith Allen said there was no indication of what plea would be given. He also told the court that legal aid had been applied for.

The deputy chief magistrate Emma Arbuthnot ordered that Mair be remanded in custody until his next appearance, at the Old Bailey on Monday. He will be held at Belmarsh prison, and Arbuthnot suggested that a psychiatric report be prepared, saying: “Bearing in mind the name he has just given, he ought to be seen by a psychiatrist.”

Cox was killed on Thursday lunchtime outside Birstall public library, where she had been planning to run a constituency surgery. The 41-year-old MP for Batley and Spen was declared dead at 1.48pm after being shot several times and stabbed.

Robert Mackey at The Intercept rounds up a host of other evidence that seems to point to a political motive for the attack, and The New York Times reports that the attack is leading many in the United Kingdom if the increasingly vitriolic nature of British politics in general, and the E.U. Referendum specifically, bears some responsibility for the Cox’s murder as well as what impact, if any, these events may have on the outcome of the referendum itself:

LONDON — As the shock of the brutal murder of a young member of Parliament began to subside on Friday, there was a growing sense in Britainthat something ominous had been unleashed in the country.

The increasingly ugly anti-immigrant tone to the campaign over next week’s referendum on Britain’s membership in the European Union, coupled with the violence of English fans at the European soccer championships and now the killing of a lawmaker on the streets of a small town, has left many here feeling that the boundaries of acceptable behavior are breaking down.

“What we are just seeing generally is a very disturbing shift in British politics,” said Simon Tilford, the deputy director of the Center for European Reform, which favors British membership. “It is quite upsetting to me what is happening.”

With next Thursday’s vote on the referendum only days away, campaigning was suspended as a gesture of mourning and respect for the victim, Jo Cox, 41, a rising star in the opposition Labour Party who, not coincidentally, was a strong backer of Britain’s remaining inside the bloc.

While it is still too early to say how the attack will change the dynamics of the campaign, it has unquestionably shifted the focus from the growing momentum of those in favor of leaving to the anti-immigrant tactics they have employed as the vote has drawn closer.

The suspect arrested in the killing, Thomas Mair, 52, has a history of mental illness. But he was also reported to have been in contact with far-right groups in the United States and Britain, and to have said, “Britain first!” several times as he attacked Ms. Cox. Britain First, a far-right nationalist group, denied any links with Mr. Mair, but a United States civil rights group said he had been associated with an American neo-Nazi organization called the National Alliance.

In a widely distributed piece written for the magazine The Spectator, which favors leaving the European Union, Alex Massie drew a connection between the “Leave” campaign, which has featured outlandish assertions, xenophobia and Islamophobia, to the death of Ms. Cox.

“Sometimes rhetoric has consequences,” Mr. Massie wrote. “If you spend days, weeks, months, years telling people they are under threat, that their country has been stolen from them, that they have been betrayed and sold down the river, that their birthright has been pilfered, that their problem is they’re too slow to realize any of this is happening, that their problem is they’re not sufficiently mad as hell, then at some point, in some place, something or someone is going to snap. And then something terrible is going to happen.”

Mr. Massie cited a poster that had been issued earlier on Thursday by one of the campaigns for British exit led by Nigel Farage, the leader of the U.K. Independence Party, which has been strongly anti-Europe and anti-immigration from its inception and won 13 percent of the vote in the national election in May 2015.

In the last stages, opponents say, the Leave campaign has essentially become a UKIP campaign on the putative dangers of immigration — given that membership in the bloc means freedom of travel and work for all its citizens — softened around the edges by Conservatives who say that as a great nation, Britain will be truly sovereign only away from Brussels.

The poster showed a long line of Middle Eastern refugees waiting to cross a European border. The text said: “BREAKING POINT. The E.U. has failed us all. We must break free from the E.U. and take control of our borders.” Never mind that the border in question was that between Croatia and Slovenia, and that Britain as an island nation is largely insulated from the immigration crisis that roiled the Continent last year.

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Polly Toynbee, a columnist for the left-leaning Guardian newspaper, said that the murder of a public official could not be seen as an isolated episode. “It occurs against a backdrop of an ugly public mood in which we have been told to despise the political class, to distrust those who serve, to dehumanize those with whom we do not readily identify,” Ms. Toynbee wrote.

Of course, many who are campaigning to leave are honorable democrats, she said. “But there are others whose recklessness has been open and shocking. I believe they bear responsibility, not for the attack itself, but for the current mood: for the inflammatory language, for the finger-jabbing, the dog whistling and the overt racism.”

Ms. Cox herself wrote a column in The Yorkshire Post, published just a few days before her death, in which she sympathetically discussed people’s concerns about immigration. “This doesn’t mean to say they are racist or xenophobic,” she said, but concerned about pressures on health and social services and competition for jobs. She added, “Most people recognize that there are positive sides of migration too.”

But the benefits of European Union membership are “huge” and far outweigh the costs, Ms. Cox wrote, explaining that “I strongly believe that concerns about immigration — as legitimate as they are — are not a reason to vote for Brexit,” in large part because leaving itself would not solve the problem.

Given the context that it occurred in, and what we’re learning about Mair, it certainly does seem as though he was motivated by politics. That’s different, though, from saying that the overall political culture is somehow responsible for what happened. First of all, in the end individuals are always the ones ultimately responsible for their actions. Blaming their actions on the rhetoric of others ignores the fact that human beings are, ultimately, autonomous moral agents, not robots being manipulated by political operatives, radio talk show hosts, or pundits on the Internet. Second, heated political rhetoric has long been a part of the political tradition here in the United States and in the United Kingdom. The E.U. Referendum is perhaps more emotional than any recent political disputes in the U.K., but that’s because it involves some very fundamental questions about Britain’s place in the world and because it could lead to fundamental changes in the political balance of power in the British Isles, just as the Scottish Independence Referendum involved many of the same questions for the Scottish people. In the end, the Scots were able to make their choice and the losers respected the outcome. Whether the same thing will happen in the wake of the Brexit vote is unclear, especially since the main reason that the arguments in favor of remaining in the E.U. don’t seem to be working with voters is because of the rise of what essentially amounts to increased nationalism among the English population that sees the European Union as a threat to the rights of their nation.

I noted on Thursday that the death of Jo Cox had many similarities to the attempted murder of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in January 2011, right down to the fact that both events happened when the two women were doing that most fundamental of tasks in a representative democracy, meeting with their constituents in the hope of addressing their concerns and problems. In the United States it’s called ‘constituent service,’ in the United Kingdom, it’s called “surgery.’ Whatever you call, it’s perhaps the most important part of any representatives job, and the fact that someone would seek to commit murder in the midst of it shows their own contempt for representative democracy itself. The fact that Cox’s murder is leading to this debate in Great Britain is another similarity between the two events, because there were similar discussions here in the U.S. about whether ‘heated political rhetoric’ was somehow responsible for what happened. What I wrote more than five years ago after the Giffords shooting would seem to apply to Britain today:

Politics stirs up strong passions, that’s a fact that has been true throughout American history. Those who see the last several years as proof that we’ve gone down hill have quite obviously forgotten history. America’s Revolutionary Era was full of violent rhetoric even before the first gun was fired. The rhetoric surrounding the Elections of 1800 and 1860, as well as the rhetoric in the years leading up to the Civil War, was incredibly violent (does nobody remember the fact that a Senator was caned, nearly do death, by a Congressman on the floor of the Senate in the 1850s?). Compared to those eras, what we see today, while it may be louder and more easily accessible thanks to 24 hour cable news and the internet, is positively peaceful.

There’s only one person responsible for the actions of Jared Lee Loughner, and his name is Jared Lee Loughner. Rather than spending the next week or two gazing into our collective navels and decrying “heated political rhetoric,” let’s focus on the victims and on making sure something like this doesn’t happen again.

More recently, in the context of the Black Lives Matter protests and the November attack on a Planned Parenthood facility in Colorado, I put it this way:

The fact that political rhetoric sometimes has a negative impact on our political culture, though, isn’t a reason to blame it for violence when there clearly isn’t any rational basis for doing so. If there are truly cases where people are using political causes to encourage people to commit violence, then that, of course, is a different story, and there are methods for dealing with such people. That’s not what the people trying to tar the Black Lives Matter movement with the deaths of policemen, or the pro-life movement with the actions of Robert Dear seem to be saying. They are arguing that the mere existence of the rhetoric itself, and the fact that some deranged, independent actor may be inspired by it in some way is itself an argument against the political arguments themselves. Not only does this deny the independent moral agency of the people who actually commit violent acts, it contributes itself to the very virulent political culture we are living in today. Blaming your political opponents for criminal acts that they clearly aren’t responsible for isn’t a political argument, it’s sheer demagoguery, and while it may make you feel good it accomplishes nothing useful and certainly isn’t going to change hearts and minds.

It would do all Americans well to remember this, both in connection with the Black Lives Matter movement and the Colorado Springs murders, but for whatever events may happen in the future.

Thomas Mair is the one who chose to act on Thursday, and he’s the one who is solely responsible for what happened. Blaming increased political passions for the act of an individual accomplishes nothing other than to give people like him an excuse for what they do.

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  1. Pch101 says:

    Blaming increased political passions for the act of an individual accomplishes nothing other than to give people like him an excuse for what they do.

    Hate speech encourages hate action. One reason that hate groups try to incite hate is so that they can encourage individuals to create their own cells and act accordingly — it’s a form of outsourcing and a low cost method of implementing their ideas.

    (A group such as ISIS will take credit for those individuals when they do act, while those groups located in developed democracies will disavow them so as to avoid being shut down. But all of these groups are pleased when their words are turned into deeds.)

    In this case, the suspect is looking like a nutter who embraced a cause that is engineered to do harm. We can’t blame the far right for the suspect’s mental illness, but we should also not be surprised that handing out gasoline, matches and instruction manuals would encourage would-be arsonists to start fires. In Britain, Brexit and xenophobia go together like bacon and eggs.

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  2. michael reynolds says:

    @Pch101:
    I’m curious as to why you’re so sure Brexit is wrong. Obviously xenophobia is part of it, not all by any means, but a large component. But do the British not have a right to decide for themselves whether their borders are open or closed? Do they not have a right to speak up on immigration? Is all opposition to immigration necessarily xenophobic?

    It’s wrong to cast this is a simple anti-Muslim thing, whatever UKIP says. Before they were concerned about Syrians the Brits were concerned about an influx of Eastern Europeans who many saw as taking British jobs.

    And isn’t one of the bedrock principles of democracy that the people should have control over their government? How does that work when the Brussels government is dominated by the Germans, and when it is the German chancellor who singlehandedly decides to allow a major influx of new immigrants?

    I am very worried by this entropic affect, this coming apart of nations and supranational groups. But in the end the citizens of the UK have a right to decide. The English have just endured the Scottish referendum, and surely they must wonder why the Scots have choices the English and Welsh do not.

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  3. JKB says:

    @Pch101:

    Your exposition on the Black Live Matter inspired murders of police officers is very well said.

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  4. Pch101 says:

    @michael reynolds:

    But do the British not have a right to decide for themselves whether their borders are open or closed?

    That’s what Parliament is for. Incidentally, when was the last time that the United States had a national referendum vote, non-binding or otherwise? (Aside from never, I mean.)

    Is all opposition to immigration necessarily xenophobic?

    No. But this version of it certainly is.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nigel-farages-eu-has-failed-us-all-poster-slammed-as-disgusting-by-nicola-sturgeon_uk_576288c0e4b08b9e3abdc483

    It’s akin to believing that “states rights” is about a commitment to liberty when it’s just a euphemism for attacking federal civil rights laws. Learn the code.

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  5. PJ says:

    @michael reynolds:

    I’m curious as to why you’re so sure Brexit is wrong.

    While opposition to Brexit may mainly be about immigration, Brexit will also lead to a lot of other consequences. I doubt that France, Germany, etc will allow the UK to leave the EU and still get to enjoy the common European market sans freedom of movement.

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  6. M. Bouffant says:

    Some copy&paste repetition in the first paragraph.

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  7. michael reynolds says:

    @Pch101:

    I just don’t think it’s as simple as pointing to some UKIP moron or saying, “learn the code.” I don’t base my opinions solely on who is standing beside me.

    The national referendum was called by the government as part of an effort to ensure support within Cameron’s own party. So I’m not quite sure what that has to do with the question of whether we hold similar referenda. And since it is legally non-binding it does not interfere with Parliament’s rights.

    A look at the polls tells me that those favoring Brexit are older, less-educated, and concentrated in poorer areas. I would agree that it doesn’t sound like my kind of folks, but I have not been able to find UK polls that give cross-tabs, so beyond those metrics we don’t know who’s on which side.

    I don’t think this heralds the reign of UKIP, whatever happens it will still be down to the Labor and Tory parties, neither of which has been captured by LaFarge. In fact a Brexit would deprive UKIP of its only issue.

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  8. Pch101 says:

    @michael reynolds:

    The national referendum was called by the government as part of an effort to ensure support within Cameron’s own party.

    No, Cameron promised the referendum in order to keep Tory seats from being lost to the UKIP.

    This is akin to the GOP trying to use appeasement as a tool for winning over the shutdown/Tea Party crowd. Establishment conservatives in both places are now paying the price for their wingnut outreach efforts.

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  9. An Interested Party says:

    Your exposition on the Black Live Matter inspired murders of police officers is very well said.

    Who has killed police officers based on the messages of the Black Lives Matter movement? I mean, other than people inside your warped little head…

    A look at the polls tells me that those favoring Brexit are older, less-educated, and concentrated in poorer areas.

    Hmm…sounds like Donald Trump supporters…

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  10. michael reynolds says:

    @Pch101:

    Again, that’s an oversimplification. Boris Johnson is a “Leave” supporter and he is a Tory, not UKIP. And given that half of Brits – and a solid majority of English – favor Brexit I think it’s a leap to lump them all in with UKIP given that UKIP took just 12 1/2% of the vote in 2015. There’s a pretty big gap between 12% and 50%.

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  11. Pch101 says:

    @michael reynolds:

    Cameron promised the referendum so that conservative voters wouldn’t switch parties and vote for the UKIP instead of the Tories. It was a campaign pledge.

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  12. stonetools says:

    Well, it’s a good thing Mair had a knife and a home made gun, and not an an assault rifle with a 30 round magazine. The death toll might well have been a good deal higher.

    let’s focus on the victims and on making sure something like this doesn’t happen again.

    You can’t completely prevent these type of events. Lone wackos ye will always have with you, along with pretexts for acting out their sick fantasies. But you can limit the damage each wacko is capable of . Two is better than 49. It’s tough to say that, but true.

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  13. steve says:

    Let’s act now to ban the immigration of all right wingers from the UK into the US. Let’s face it, vetting them would be almost impossible as Americans are always fooled by those British accents.

    Steve

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  14. michael reynolds says:

    It might be good to note that the people most directly harmed by the EU’s open borders policy may be those aspiring immigrants to Britain that are non-EU, such as the Indians, Pakistanis, Jamaicans and other folks from once-British possessions. The government can’t stop Poles or Hungarians or whatever, so they cut the number of visas to Commonwealth/Empire folks.

    Countries belong to their citizens. If the citizens/subjects of the UK don’t want open borders they have a perfect right to go a different direction. Clearly racism and ultra-nationalism are part of the picture, but so are people of good will who want to place control over Britain in the hands of Brits. That is their right. That’s what sovereignty is all about. Closing the door is not ipso facto racism. Saying you only want white immigrants? That’s racism. A situation where brown folks from Pakistan cannot get in because the job market is struggling to cope with white Romanians, cannot I think be dismissed as racism.

    Personally I think in the US our policy should always be: what’s best for the American people. I’d have a pretty open door to anyone of any race or religion who had entrepreneurial skills, advanced education, investment capital, or who made cultural contributions. To me immigration is essentially employment: find the people who will help the firm (the US). We have a right to put the interests of our citizens ahead of those of other nations. The American taxpayer should not be required simply to passively accept whoever shows up and lays a claim on us.

    On top of that we have a moral obligation to people who’ve rendered service overseas: Iraqis who worked as interpreters for US forces, for example. We have a slightly lower but not negligible moral obligation to contribute to refugee relief, but I don’t take it as given that this has to come in the form of immigration. We should also, as a matter of simple humanity, allow close family members of accepted immigrants to join in.

    But beyond that we do not have an obligation to open the door for everyone who wants in. Neither do the Brits have that obligation. And the results of ignoring the rights of citizens to control immigration can be seen in Brexit, in Scandawegian barriers to immigration, in rising opposition to Merkel, in the rise of semi-hard-right governments like Poland’s, or near-fascist regimes like that in Hungary, and in the rise of the most embarrassing major political candidate in US history.

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  15. Pch101 says:

    @michael reynolds:

    Previously, you’ve made comments such as this:

    We need to get off the refugees, get off the kumbaya, get off the climate, and act like we are serious about this latest round of Islam vs. The West (a long-running series that started in the 7th and 8th centuries)

    http://wordpress-80960-242333.cloudwaysapps.com/trumps-plan-to-bar-muslim-immigration-widely-condemned-but-its-unlikely-to-hurt-him/#comment-2057250

    I guess that we shouldn’t be surprised that an Islamophobe like yourself would be sympathetic to those Brits who indulge in the same nasty hobby.

    The key difference between the racists of yesteryear and their modern counterparts is that the old timers were proud to admit their proclivities. Today’s believers hide behind concern trolling and take offense when they are called out, yet the substance of their us-vs-them arguments remains the same.

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  16. PJ says:

    @michael reynolds:
    The free movement of people within the EU is one of the four freedoms of its internal market (the others being the free movement of goods, capital, and services). A lot of Brexit supporters seems to think that the UK can somehow still be a part of the last three.

    On the subject of non-EU immigrants, or rather the current refugee crisis, the UK may very well be worse off after Brexit than it is today depending on which agreements the EU is willing to make with the UK.

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  17. michael reynolds says:

    @Pch101:

    You seem incapable of offering a rational argument beyond guilt-by-association. The Brexit vote polls stand at 50/50. UKIP earned 12% of the vote. How do you explain the difference between 12 and 50?

    How do explain that the number of people concerned with immigration in this country exceeds the number who support Trump?

    How do answer the question of whether nations have a right to control their borders? If you believe we should have open borders, how much more are you willing to pay to support the numbers who would come? And if you agree that we have a right to control our borders, can you explain what criteria you’d apply?

    Is the question of ideology irrelevant? Do the belief systems of immigrants form no part of your consideration? What if they are committed white supremacists? Shall we invite them in? If not, why not?

    Do you have the ability to discuss an issue as I’ve asked you to do a couple times now? Or is tribalism your fall-back, us vs. them, good guys and bad guys. I’m asking rational questions. Do you have rational answers?

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  18. michael reynolds says:

    @PJ:

    They may well be worse off. I don’t have a dog in this fight, I’m not British. I have no idea which is the better option for Britain.

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  19. michael reynolds says:

    JK Rowling, “Remain” supporter:

    It is dishonourable to suggest, as many have, that Leavers are all racists and bigots: they aren’t and it is shameful to suggest that they are. Nevertheless, it is equally nonsensical to pretend that racists and bigots aren’t flocking to the ‘Leave’ cause, or that they aren’t, in some instances, directing it. For some of us, that fact alone is enough to give us pause. The picture of Nigel Farage standing in front of a poster showing a winding line of Syrian refugees captioned ‘Breaking Point’ is, as countless people have already pointed out, an almost exact duplicate of propaganda used by the Nazis.

    Racists drawn to, exploiting, but not forming the bulk of, the Leave forces. That was my sense as well.

    The fact that bad people join a cause should absolutely make us pause. But it does not in itself mean that the Leave side has no legitimate beef. As with the Trump people, they may be largely (or in Trump’s case, mostly) racist ass-clowns, but that does not mean that some of the questions raised have no legitimacy.

    There is a tension between nationalism and internationalism that we have failed to resolve. Republicans in the US exploit that tension. But Democrats haven’t done their jobs, either, as evidenced by the fact that no one seems anxious to answer the questions I’ve posed above. There are contradictions on the Left as well as imbecility on the Right. The collapse of the GOP and conservatism, does not automatically validate every Democratic policy prescription, particularly when we cannot even manage to explain our justify those positions.

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  20. Gavrilo says:

    @michael reynolds:

    Why are you still here trying to have a rational discussion on the merits of Brexit? Don’t you know @Pch101 already destroyed you yesterday when he called you an Islamophobe? Don’t you know how it works? When you call your opponent an Islamophobe, homophobe, transphobe, bigot, misogynist, or racist you don’t need to engage their arguments. You automatically win. It’s much simpler that way.

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  21. Avid sportman says:

    Anyone watching the GBP/USD in all of this? It’s up almost 700 pips from the lows on Thursday morning. The currency market certainly thinks this has swung the vote for “remain”

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  22. Pch101 says:

    @michael reynolds:

    That’s a wonderful strawman argument.

    Perhaps it would help to clarify the points:

    -Not every supporter of Brexit is a racist, but it is undeniable that the racists absolutely love Brexit.

    -You’re not exactly the pinnacle of enlightenment yourself vis-a-vis Muslims, as your own words make clear, so your position is not exactly surprising.

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  23. michael reynolds says:

    @Pch101:

    And once again, what I get from you is evasion. I’ve asked a number of questions, none of which is answered by you calling me names.

    Are you capable of discussing an issue? Starting to think the answer is no.

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  24. Pch101 says:

    @michael reynolds:

    Stop trying to deflect from such winning comments of yours as “We need to get off the refugees, get off the kumbaya, get off the climate, and act like we are serious about this latest round of Islam vs. The West (a long-running series that started in the 7th and 8th centuries).”

    That’s a direct quote from you, and you get to own it. You’re not fooling anyone — not everyone shares your hysteria or thirst for a culture war against 1+ billion people. Let’s not pretend that you’re some enlightened liberal when you utter nonsense like that.

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  25. michael reynolds says:

    @Pch101:

    Again: you have nothing. The extent of your intellectual capacity is to say, “You’re bad!” And then. . . nothing.

    You know why you have nothing? Because you don’t really care about issues, you’re too lazy or perhaps too stupid to bother thinking about actual issues, actual problems, let alone solutions. So like a toddler you yell, “You stink!” and run away.

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  26. Pch101 says:

    @michael reynolds:

    It’s no surprise that you have nice things to say about Brexit when it pushes all of your xenophobic hot buttons.

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  27. michael reynolds says:

    @Pch101:

    You can’t talk issues because there is no liberal orthodoxy developed on immigration. You don’t know what the “right” answers are. You’re waiting to be told what to think. In the meantime you want to play troll, that’s fine, play troll. It’s apparently all you can manage.

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  28. Pch101 says:

    Oh, I’m pretty sure that we have a liberal orthodoxy as proclaiming a diverse group of 1+ billion people as being backward, as you have.

    If you’d like, I can go back through your old comments and repost some of the hysterical xenophobic tripe that you have posted on this website. We can then use those quotes to illustrate my point above that Brexit is the sort of thing that xenophobes like, which would explain why you are so eager to “explain” it to the rest of us. You obviously have a rabid dog in this fight.

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